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AlvaLynsis: /* Damage scaling in co-op */

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Damage scaling in co-op

AlvaLynsis: /* Armada ships */ explanation of how to use grenade damage bug

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Armada ships: explanation of how to use grenade damage bug

AlvaLynsis: /* Damage scaling in co-op */

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Damage scaling in co-op

AlvaLynsis: damage scaling

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damage scaling

AlvaLynsis: /* Armada ships */

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Armada ships

AlvaLynsis: /* Armada ships */

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Armada ships

AlvaLynsis: /* Armada shots */

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Armada shots

AlvaLynsis: /* Armada ships */ so close to finished

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Armada ships: so close to finished

AlvaLynsis: /* Armada ships */

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Armada ships

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 ==Damage scaling in co-op==
-The more players are in the party, the less damage each player's attacks will deal. Most attacks' damage is divided by 1+(players-1)*0.5666. However, damage dealt by explosions from barrels of the Bomber ship and grenades of the Grenadoe A and B ship is divided by 1+(players-1)*0.28333 instead.
+The more players are in the party, the less damage each player's attacks will deal, even while any of the party members are currently dead. Most attacks' damage is divided by 1+(players-1)*0.5666. However, damage dealt by explosions from barrels of the Bomber ship and grenades of the Grenadoe A and B ship is divided by 1+(players-1)*0.28333 instead.
 == References ==

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 *movement speed: 8; the ship will initially move at speed 6 upon spawning (including after a death) but pressing the Special button will fix it to 8, even if no grenade is available at that time
 *single grenade: 14 total damage; damage: 7 per hit, hits: 2, frequency: 1 hit every 4 frames
-*all grenades: ???dps; damage: 14 per grenade, slow recharge: 135 frames, fast recharge: 1 grenade every 7 frames
+*all grenades: ~22.9dps to ~53.45dps; total damage: ranges from 84 (intended) to 196 (damage bug), slow recharge: 135 frames, fast recharge: 1 grenade every 7 frames, recommended launch rate for damage bug: 1 grenade every 10 frames
 *Damage dealt by grenade explosions scales differently with more players. It's divided by 1+(players-1)*0.28333 instead of 1+(players-1)*0.5666.
-*There's currently unexplained behavior in the way damage is dealt by the grenades. Even though 6 grenades should just deal 84 damage in total, it appears that [https://youtu.be/voxL3OuZlzw grenades discharged in rapid succession will deal more damage]. However, the exact way this works, whether it's a bug or not and the amount of damage potential added because of this is currently unknown but it appears to at least double the damage and dps potential.
+*Grenade damage bug: Even though 6 grenades should just deal 84 damage in total, it appears that [https://youtu.be/voxL3OuZlzw grenades discharged in rapid succession will deal more damage]. This is assumed to be a bug and increases the damage potential from 6 grenades being launched from 84 to 196. To achieve this a grenade must be launched every 10 or 11 frames and the Special button must always be released as soon as possible upon a grenade launch. The bug is caused by newly launched grenades increasing the amount of times grenades that are already exploding will apply damage.
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 ==Damage scaling in co-op==
-The more players are in the party, the less damage each player's attacks will deal. Most attacks are divided by 1+(players-1)*0.5666. However, damage dealt by explosions from barrels of the Bomber ship and grenades of the Grenadoe A and B ship is divided by 1+(players-1)*0.28333 instead.
+The more players are in the party, the less damage each player's attacks will deal. Most attacks' damage is divided by 1+(players-1)*0.5666. However, damage dealt by explosions from barrels of the Bomber ship and grenades of the Grenadoe A and B ship is divided by 1+(players-1)*0.28333 instead.
 == References ==

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 ==Deltatime and cooldown oversight in Jamestown+==
 Many ships in Jamestown+ suffer from a bug that causes them to have less dps potential than intended. In Jamestown+, the delta time value for gameplay logic was changed from slightly above 1/60 to slightly below 1/60. Because of this, many  shot and collision frequencies take one frame longer than intended. This page will list the resulting cooldowns and the originally intended dps values in brackets in those cases. The original Jamestown does not suffer from this, so the intended frequency and dps values hold true for that version.
 == References ==

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 *single grenade: 14 total damage; damage: 7 per hit, hits: 2, frequency: 1 hit every 4 frames
 *all grenades: ???dps; damage: 14 per grenade, slow recharge: 135 frames, fast recharge: 1 grenade every 7 frames
 *There's currently unexplained behavior in the way damage is dealt by the grenades. Even though 6 grenades should just deal 84 damage in total, it appears that [https://youtu.be/voxL3OuZlzw grenades discharged in rapid succession will deal more damage]. However, the exact way this works, whether it's a bug or not and the amount of damage potential added because of this is currently unknown but it appears to at least double the damage and dps potential.
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 *movement speed: 6 (unfocused), 8 (focused)
 *grenade: ~49.23dps (intended: ~75.29dps), damage per grenade: ~42.67 (intended: 64); damage: ~21.33 per hit, hits: 2 (intended: 3), collision frequency: 1 hit every 4 frames, recharge: 1 grenade every 52 frames (intended: every 51 frames)
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 |'''Stats:'''
 *movement speed: [...]
-*sword: ~0.66dps*n; damage: 4.64 per hit, collision frequency: 1 hit every 2 frames, crystal recharge: 7 seconds
+*crystal: ~0.66dps*n; damage: 4.64 per hit, collision frequency: 1 hit every 2 frames, crystal recharge: 7 seconds
 *n: amount of hits
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 |'''Description:''' "A shot whose cannons follow you in a trail."
 |- style="vertical-align: center;"
-| '''Vulcan Shot:''' Shot type consisting of two forward shots on the ship and four options following the ship with each shooting forward as well. The options do not trace the ship's movement but simply all make sure to stay within a set radius each. If the ship stands still while the stage is scrolling, the options will realign themselves behind the ship again as they try to stay in range and do not inherently get dragged along by the stage scrolling unlike the ship.
+| '''Vulcan Shot:''' Shot type consisting of two forward shots on the ship and four options following the ship with each shooting forward as well. The options do not trace the ship's movement but simply all make sure to stay within a set radius each. If the ship stands still while the stage is scrolling, the options will realign themselves behind the ship again as they try to stay in range and do not inherently get dragged along by the stage scrolling unlike the ship. This can cause the options to get positioned under the screen which will also cause their shots to be cancelled and never enter the screen in the first place if the player is too low on screen while the stage is scrolling.
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 |'''Stats:'''

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 {| class="wikitable" style="background-color:#B6906B; width : 100%"
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-! colspan="2" style="background-color : #804040; color : white; text-align :left" | <big>Grenadoe B (Six Bomb)</big>
+! colspan="2" style="background-color : #804040; color : white; text-align :left" | <big>Grenadoe B (Aim Bomb)</big>
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 | rowspan="3" style="width : 10%"|
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 |'''Description:''' "Customizable conveyance outfitted with Deimosian pirate grenadoes. Throw aimable explosives at your foes. The Pirate Queen's [B] conveyance."
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-| '''Special:''' [...]
+| '''Special:''' While the Special button is either held or tapped, the aim line's angle is fixated. Releasing the Special button will launch the grenade in that direction if it's stocked up. The ship can only hold one grenade at a time. While not holding or not tapping the Special button, the aim will constantly change to be the opposite direction of the ship's movement. It's possible to consistently launch grenades in the same direction by simply tapping the Special button or using external autofire the whole time.
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 |'''Stats:'''
-*movement speed: [...]
+*movement speed: 6 (unfocused), 8 (focused)
-*grenade: [...]
+*grenade: ~49.23dps (intended: ~75.29dps), damage per grenade: ~42.67 (intended: 64); damage: ~21.33 per hit, hits: 2 (intended: 3), collision frequency: 1 hit every 4 frames, recharge: 1 grenade every 52 frames (intended: every 51 frames)
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 |'''Stats:'''
 *movement speed: 6 (unfocused), 4 (charging), 2 (charged)
-*burst laser: ~54.76dps, damage per burst: ~76.66; damage: ~3.33, burst duration: 23 frames, recharge: 61 frames, frequency: damage every frame during laser, 1 laser every 84 frames (23+61)
+*burst laser: ~54.76dps, damage potential per burst: ~76.66; damage: ~3.33, burst duration: 23 frames, recharge: 61 frames, frequency: damage every frame during laser, 1 laser every 84 frames (23+61)
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 |'''Stats:'''
 *movement speed: 8; the ship will initially move at speed 6 upon spawning (including after a death) but pressing the Special button will fix it to 8, even if no grenade is available at that time
-*single grenade: 14 total damage; damage: 7, hits: 2, frequency: 1 hit every 4 frames
+*single grenade: 14 total damage; damage: 7 per hit, hits: 2, frequency: 1 hit every 4 frames
-*all grenades: ???dps; damage: 7*2 per grenade, slow recharge: 135 frames, fast recharge: 1 grenade every 7 frames
+*all grenades: ???dps; damage: 14 per grenade, slow recharge: 135 frames, fast recharge: 1 grenade every 7 frames
-*There's currently unexplained behavior in the way damage is dealt by the grenades. Even though 6 grenades should just deal 84 damage in total, it appears that [https://youtu.be/voxL3OuZlzw quickly discharged grenades will deal more damage]. However, the exact way this works, whether it's a bug or not and the amount of damage potential added because of this is currently unknown but it appears to at least double the damage and dps potential.
+*There's currently unexplained behavior in the way damage is dealt by the grenades. Even though 6 grenades should just deal 84 damage in total, it appears that [https://youtu.be/voxL3OuZlzw grenades discharged in rapid succession will deal more damage]. However, the exact way this works, whether it's a bug or not and the amount of damage potential added because of this is currently unknown but it appears to at least double the damage and dps potential.
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